This is the one that started it all for us and for all the laser cut companies for that matter

Model Number: 30-76409

Trainz Product Id: 12175947

Model Number: 75981

This car features durable plastic construction accurate painting and lettering

Proto 2000 8712 HO Scale Illinois Central E8/9 Diesel Locomotive #4025 ProductID_11438699 This is the one thatHere is a Proto 2000 8712 Illinois Central E8 9 Diesel Locomotive, cab number 4025. This locomotive features a finely detailed plastic shell, metal wheels, a powerful motor, working headlight, crew figures, plastic trucks and universal coupler pockets. Condition: Factory New (C 9) Operational Status: Functional Original Box: Yes (P 9) Manufacturer: Proto 2000 Model Number: 8712 Road Name: Illinois Central (IC) MSRP: $65. 00 Scale Era: HO Scale Model